A little help please...

[CHunter]

I fish the p.m. on a regular basis and do pretty well with both steelies and kings. I generally stick to simple egg patterns usually "micro eggs" tied to a #8 or 10 for steelies and #6 or 8 for the kings. I'm only interested in fair hook-up's and wondered if anyone could suggest a dominant pattern or color (besides egg /leech patterns) that has been productive in the past. I will be "dead drifting" with a 9wt fly rod. I know what the steelies like but could use some advice on the king's favorites..

[rhino]

i use a egg called "orange" it can be bought at most fly shops in michigan. it has a golden nugget out side of glo bug yarn and a fine blood dot of mike atlas "orange" glo yarn


i use this and strait "chartreuse" and "mc roe" mc fly foam


from what a guy told me at the show is darker colors for the start of spawning and lighter colors or pale colors for later in the year so in other words get out the dye


good luck and tight lines rhino.................... :)

[CHunter]

Thanx for the help. I have been at my vice for about half of the day and it looks like I have a few more to tie... I'm familar with the patterns that you mentioned but I can't say that I have given the "orange" a fair shake for the kings. I find myself doing well with Oregon cheese and the dark green verses the chartrues. I'm lucky to have about every color of Mcfly foam, so orange it is. I typically try to fish the beginning of the "run" so, I'll test the darker earlier theory next week.

[rhino]

suckers are the chartreuse and they get pale in color to a white salmon /steel head are orange and get pale to a almost white color and coho are a redish orange i think on the coho i also herre cool aid works for dyeing or staining fabrics like egg yarn

some of the fly i get up north are oregon cheese with a light orange blood dot of the atlas orange that i told you about earlyer. i think this imutates a chartreuse sucker egg when you use oregon cheese and orange blood dot. which is the closeest color you can put up against it and also do not foreget that the suckers were in the river since summer then kings run and find their eggs. the oregon cheese egg is closer to a sun light bleached out sucker egg to me at least.



good luck and tight lines rhino............................. :)

[Riverman]

do not foreget that the suckers were in the river since summer then kings run and find their eggs. the oregon cheese egg is closer to a sun light bleached out sucker egg to me at least.



:)

So are you saying Rhino that King Salmon are eating two to three month old, bleached out sucker eggs? Have you ever seen freshly deposited sucker spawn in a river?

[rhino]

no i have not seen a fresh egg lay because they are to small to find most of the time not the fish but the eggs are hard to find. but i have cut open a sucker before to find white eggs inside that were under developed. and yes suckers are in the rivers most of the season laying eggs knowing you do not want to eat suckers i will never do it again. have you ever seen walleye eggs they look like thousands of round white eggs with veins attached to them.the crystal meth and sucker spawn tyed with pink thread makes it look like a washed out vein and pearl diamond braid to imutate the egg masses. now a chartreuse glo bug looks like it has no veins or the veins have comepletly washed out of blood to turn them white or clear . this is also were some eggs are staind a yellow color from the blood or turning them a real red color. this yellowish coloration is where it may look like sucker spawn to me but may not be to the fish here is the web site with crystal meth and sucker spawn on it. and yes tiny walleye eggs do resemble sucker spawn hope this help you figure out what i am talking about. any more question can be answered by me if needed. :)


http://www.steelheading101.com/eggs.html#


good luck and tight lines rhino...................