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TheSteelheadBum
10-30-2006, 11:25 PM
Has anyone tried these hooks? I have read a lot of reviews that say they are a great hook for egg patterns but they look like they might be to heavy of a hook. Any info. on the matter would be greatly appreciated...
Steeldrifter
10-30-2006, 11:40 PM
Yupp I've used them. They are a good hook, little pricey though at about $6.50 per 25. I've switched over to a little better priced hook that I like a tad more not only because of the price but also because they are a 2x strong(not as heavy) hook rather than the 3x strong like the Daiichi X510. And those hooks are the Umpqua 105's. pretty much the same design just a little lighter steel and 5x short where as I think the Daiichi X510 Hooks are a 3x short.

Steve
Neeso1aj
10-31-2006, 03:21 AM
I have a pack of Daiichi# 1520 if these are the same hooks, I like them. I had other ones that were 1X and they straighened out. I got mine in Lake Orion at a fly shop that is PRICEY and only had to pay 5.25 I recommend them. If any of you want them let me know im glad to send them to you.
bdaddy
10-31-2006, 07:46 AM
The x510 is a great hook, although a bit pricey as mentioned. I buy boxes of 100 and they run about .25 per hook. I've never had one bend out on me and I believe they are the sharpest hook on the market. I slipped a couple of weeks ago on some clay and I now have the scar's to remind me of how sharp they are! I won't use any other hooks for my egg patterns.

-John
TheSteelheadBum
10-31-2006, 07:48 AM
They are not the same hook. These X510 hooks are some new really heavy duty hook with what they call a X Point. It is supposed to allow you to use a heavier wire hook but still get the penetration of a fine wire. Not sure if that is true but that is what they say. I will have to give those 1520's a shot though. I have been using the Daiichi 1650 hooks which I like but am just trying other ones to see if I find one I like better. I bought these 1650's for $4.75 at a local shop. I was looking around on some different sites and found some really good deals if you bought a 1000 pack in many models of hooks. I know that sounds like a lot of hooks but you save quite a bit and they will not go bad. These hooks I have been using are 2x strong and 2x short. Those Umpqua hooks you speak of Steve sound promising I will have to give them a shot.

See You On The Stream

Kory
steeliefreak
10-31-2006, 08:31 AM
They are good hooks but you have to watch the tips on them. If you get hung up or pull out of a fish the tip seems to bend out easily. I usually just scrape it back with my fingernail unless it is too bad.
SuperiorChrome
10-31-2006, 10:12 AM
Well now I'm interested in these hooks as well. What sizes are you guys using? I've been using mainly Mustad C67S for the past two years in size 8. They've been pretty good to me, but I notice I've been having to bend the points back more and more. The Daiichi looks like a good hook that I would like to try.
Steeldrifter
10-31-2006, 10:31 AM
Well now I'm interested in these hooks as well. What sizes are you guys using? .

For my own personal taste I tie pretty much all my egg flies on size 10, I would say at least 90% of them go on that size.


Just a side note as well- I started tying up some egg flies for a friend that I'm fishing with this weekend and he requested his eggs be tied on Eagle Claw 42wide gap. Honestly I really have never used them because I've always been more into the Daiichi & Mustad brands of egg hooks. After tying about 50 of them on these Eagle claw 42's last night though I have to say they seem like a pretty nice hook for a really low price. I just picked up two 50 packs from Janns for about $4.50 per 50:cool:
Neeso1aj
10-31-2006, 10:53 AM
The 1520's are size 6 2X heavy and 3X short. I have had alot of fish take them and the work well on the steelhead and the salmon.
TheSteelheadBum
10-31-2006, 11:23 AM
For my own personal taste I tie pretty much all my egg flies on size 10, I would say at least 90% of them go on that size.

I completely agree and the other 10% of the time for me is a size 8. I go to the size 8 in dirty water situations when I tie a larger egg...
TheSteelheadBum
10-31-2006, 11:25 AM
The 1520's are size 6 2X heavy and 3X short. I have had alot of fish take them and the work well on the steelhead and the salmon.

Size 6? Do these hooks tend to run smaller than other models? All the hooks I have ever used for egg patterns that would be pretty big. Thanks for the information though I am going to check these models out the next time I am at the fly shop...
TheSteelheadBum
10-31-2006, 11:37 AM
They are good hooks but you have to watch the tips on them. If you get hung up or pull out of a fish the tip seems to bend out easily. I usually just scrape it back with my fingernail unless it is too bad.

I wondered about that because of the grooves running up to the point of the hook. Just one of those things you have to see if the advantages outweigh the disadvantages I guess...

Thanks for all the replies everyone!!!

Kory
AKFLY
10-31-2006, 01:03 PM
You may also want to try a casddis hook in size 10 and 12. I like the slight offset and wider bend.
LIPRIPPA
10-31-2006, 02:29 PM
Guys just a little something I've noticed using the X510's for the past few years...

Ive found they work very well for C&D but I've also noticed there not very good for verticle presentations such as Indicator Nymphing or Pinning. Stick with TMC 105 or Daiichi 4250

Too bad they don't make a size 12 since a 10 is the size of an 8 and a 8's the size of a 6.