View Full Version : Aol Users!!! America Online Can Fire Gun-owning Employees
Geemm
07-25-2004, 12:05 AM
Please share this with other AOL users. This is from the NRA Institute For Legislative Action. It IS NOT a hoax!
AMERICA ONLINE CAN FIRE
GUN-OWNING EMPLOYEES
UTAH HIGH COURT RULES
Self-defense took a big blow this week when the Utah Supreme Court upheld the right of America Online (AOL), America`s largest on-line service provider, to fire three employees whose firearms were stored in the trunks of their cars in the parking lot of an AOL call center in Ogden, Utah. In a decision that diminishes rights guaranteed under both the Utah and the U.S. Constitution, the court acknowledged the individual right to keep and bear arms, but said the right of a business to regulate its own property is more important!
Complying with this decision could potentially cost an employee his or her life--violent criminals certainly aren`t going to obey such a ban. It may also diminish employees` abilities to hunt or target shoot after work.
The issue is becoming a hot legislative topic in the states. This year Oklahoma passed HB 2122 ensuring that employees with guns in their cars were not fired or harassed, and it was debated in several other states.
Please look to future editions of the Grassroots Alert for developing information on this issue.
You threw out the truth in your title and threw your credibility and judgement into question with the rest of your post.
AOL cannot fire employees because they own guns. However they can fire employees that bring firearms onto the property of their employer, in violation of the companies employee management policies. That is a right that any employer should have, to bar employees from bring firearms onto their property. It is no different than the school system writing rules preventing a teenager bring guns on to school porperty.
In addition you are advocating keeping firearms in unattended parked vehicles. What are you thinking? All guns need to be carefully and properly controlled by thier lawful owners, at all times.
Irresponsible behavior by lawful gun owners is the greatest threat we face. We cant expect hoods to care but the rest of us have responsibilities we need to live up to, if we expect to keep our rights from being whittled down by the anti gun crowd.
And yes, when I was in high school I kept a shotgun in the trunk and went hunting after school. But this is a different world than I grew up in and it takes a fool to deny it. I do miss those days, theyre gone. Get used to it.
You want to keep your rights? Then take the moral high road, don't twist the truth and don't advocate irresponsible behavior.
Jeff
Jay Z
07-25-2004, 11:00 PM
First of all the right to bare arms, doesnt mean take them to your work. Im a hunter who owns several guns and never have I needed to carry a gun to my work place. If I did i sure as heck wouldnt be working there. Its my opinion they deserved to be fired. With all the BS going on this world keeping a gun in your car at work is not a good thing. Is life this bad now that we have have people pleading the constitutional right to bare guns at work? Common man, go join the militia or something..... :)
Geemm
07-26-2004, 04:53 PM
Jeff and Jay,
I simply shared the post which was copied directly from NRA's Legislative Update.
Gee
mcflyfisher
07-26-2004, 05:31 PM
This is why the NRA is going to be death of all gun owners. A little common sense here would go a long way. I understand why the NRA has the "give 'em an inch and the will take a mile" philosophy, but this is out of hand. The head line should have said something like "Supreme Court Upholds Employer's Rights". The real issue here is not gun related, it is about the right of the employer to control its own property. It sounds like these employees got caught violating a policy of the employer and were then diciplined for it. They ran to the most powerful lobbying group in the USA and attempted to make this a gun issue. This is the sort of thing that gives anti-gun folks a lot of ammunition, and likely a lot of laughs. :(
If what you said is true, the NRA is way out of line and they should know better. But they are catering to an audience that has been trained to follow them like sheep, so they are bold and send information designed to enflame the casual reader and/or shallow thinker. And that brings us to the second problem,
GeeEmm and probably a few thousand others copied that press release and sent it around and did not stop to consider whether it was misleading or even true. The internet is dangerous because lots of half baked stuff is distributed and repeated until it is generally accepted as true.
The NRA is still the big dog, so read their stuff, but don't be a sheep, don't take it all at face value. Slow down, take time to think about it and then form your own carefully considered opinion.
Jeff
cmu_fly_guy
09-21-2004, 11:09 AM
I graduated in 2001 probably after all of you talking about this article. I kept a gun in my car during all parts of the year. I wasn't the only one. I don't believe that i should be fired from my job for having a weapon in my vehical. The car is my property... and i know a car is a safer place than where many people keep their firearm. I can lock my car, and if i have a proper lock on my gun, even if someone breaks into my car, i still have the gun safely stored. I think that i have the right to have a weapon in my car. I do a lot of hunting during the school year. After i get done hunting i go to class. my gun or bow usually ends up in the trunk of my car. I believe i have that right. My vehical is locked up just as tight as any home.
Just my $.02.
later,
Jeremy
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